Halperin Defends Hillary With a Lie: People Want to See
Her Private Emails
by John Nolte11 Mar
2015
During the first hour of MSNBC’s “Morning Joe,” Bloomberg
Politics’ Mark Halperin defended
Hillary
Clinton with the false claim that she followed the law in choosing
which of her emails to disclose to the public. Halperin also argued — again
falsely — that people are asking to see her private emails.
The idea that people want to see Ms. Clinton’s private
emails is nothing more than a pro-Clinton talking point. A lie that allows her
surrogates to attack those requesting full transparency from a potential
president as overreaching creeps.
No one is asking to see Clinton’s private emails. No one. Last
night on Fox News, Trey Gowdy, the head of the House Select Committee investigating
Benghazi, was firm on this point.
All those of us interested in government transparency and
truth want is what we would have had had Ms. Clinton followed the rules: access
to the server that contains these emails. There is absolutely no reason for her
not to turn the server over to mutually-trusted third party — a State
Department Inspector General, for
example — to ensure she did indeed give us everything relevant.
It is also vitally important that we know if she was ever
hacked.
WILLIE GEIST: Why did Hillary Clinton and her
attorneys have the discretion over what the State Department got to see? Why is
she deciding what goes inside the public records? …
JOE SCARBOROUGH: How did get to decide that.
MARK HALPERIN: That’s the law. Every employee does
that, that’s the law, she said yesterday.
SCARBOROUGH: But Mark Halperin, It’s not the law.
HALPERIN: It is.
Scarborough: She can’t decide that she’s not going to
turn that server over.
HALPERIN: Yes, she can.
SCARBOROUGH: No, she really can’t.
HALPERIN: It’s the discretion of employees as you
leave the government to make the determination, as she said yesterday, of what
you make part of the public record.
SCARBOROUGH: Mark, if you are seriously buying into
this, then you have serious problems. We have something called the Freedom of
Information Act.
HALPERIN: That’s different.
SCARBOROUGH: We have something called transparency.
What you are suggesting is that it’s legal for someone who is in the State
Department or the DOD (Department of Defense) to make the unilateral decision
that they are not going to abide by the 2009 standard — that you
are not going to back up all emails into [government] servers and that you can
just take them home and delete what you want to delete.
HALPERIN: That’s a separate question. She is at best
cavalier about the Freedom of Information Act. Now, she didn’t address that
yesterday. It was one of the main things she wasn’t asked about. But in terms
of the point Willie raised — Who decides which emails need to be part of the
public record — as she said, it’s up to the discretion of the employee to
decide what needs to be part of the public record.
SCARBOROUGH: Ron Fournier please step in here. This
is turning into cartoon.
RON FOURNIER: The argument that Mark is making would
be like saying that somebody who robs a bank, once they get to their house,
they get to decide how much to return. What we’re overlooking here, what she
completely overlooked here, is that she a total right to use a personal
account. What she can’t do is have that account stored outside the government
servers. Clearly against regulation, she stored all that on a dark server,
registered to her house, kept secret from FOIA requests, and kept secret from
the White House. And now she gets to say, “Oh I get to decide which of those I
will return back to the government.”
Those are our emails. That is in effect our server. Now, no
one wants to see her private emails. No one’s asking to see her private emails.
No one wants to intrude on her personal life. But what we do have to see for
the sake of transparency, for the sake of honesty, for the sake of integrity
and trust in government, are all work-related emails.
Look at what she’s decided now: She’s decided on her own
what is a personal email. I wonder if she thinks that emails she sent to donors
to her family’s personal charity … are personal. So if there’s a little quid
pro quo going on, she doesn’t have to turn it over. Those are personal
emails. That’s my charity.
HALPERIN: I agree with everything you said except on
two points: people do want to see her personal emails. People are asking to see
the server. They are not asking to have them released, but they are asking to
see them. And she objects to that.
FOURNIER: She should turn over the server. Then
Federal archivists would go through it as if she had followed the law and kept
it in custody of the government.
HALPERIN: Again, I agree with everything else you
said, and her cavalier attitude toward the Freedom of Information Act was
wrong, I think. But the phase at which any employee goes through their emails
and decides which ones need to be part of the public record — she exercised the
same discretion, as she said yesterday, as every employee is allowed to do.
FOURNIER: After she secrets them into her own server.
She’s taken them out of our custody and now we’re going to say, “Okay, you get
to decide what you’re going to do with them?”
HALPERIN: I agree.
FOURNIER: It’s one thing if she has kept them where
they are supposed to be. Once she violated the law she has no right now–
SCARBOROUGH: Ron’s exactly right. She violated a 2009
regulation that was clear — the letter and the spirit of it was clear. If you
do not keep your emails in the State Department server, then you have a
responsibility to be proactive and back up all of those emails on our server.
HALPERIN: She said she did.
SCARBOROUGH: No, she didn’t!
HALPERIN: She said she did. This needs to be
verified.
SCARBOROUGH: I’m not going to let misinformation go
out on my show. This is misinformation. If Hillary had backed up all of the
emails that she used on that server in the State Department, we wouldn’t be
having this discussion right now. What she’s saying is … I went through went
through all of these emails, these are the 55,000 emails that I decided to turn
over and I’m not turning over anything else that I don’t want to turn over. If
they were all backed up on the State Department server, we wouldn’t be having
this discussion right now.
FOURNIER: It’s very simple. We gotta stop helping the
Clintons parse this. Those are government emails. The government is supposed to
decide which … emails are private.
ED RENDELL: That is not correct. The manual says that
each employee decides which email is personal and which ones to delete.
FOURNIER: You know what the problem with the manual is,
sir? The manual applies to emails that have been stored legally and correctly
on a government server.
SCARBOROUGH: If you’re doing it illegally on your
home server, that doesn’t apply. It applies if the emails are stored according
the 2009 regulation in the State Department. ….
HALPERIN: Here’s what she said she did. I’m not
saying she did it and I don’t want to be cast here as defending everything she
did, what she said she did is — most of the emails were sent to other
government employees and therefore were captured. And she said in the Q&A
she put out afterwards that any email she sent that wasn’t a work email she
forwarded to someone else in the State Department.
MIKA BRZEZINSKI:
That’s just–
HALPERIN: That’s what she said she did. That’s what
she said she did.
On what Media Planet is it anything close to okay for a
government official — much less a senior government official who wants to
become president — to squirrel away all her government emails on a private server,
choose which ones she considers official, mass delete all the others, and say
“trust me”?
Wanting access to that server is not an invasion of her
privacy anymore than examining her government server would have been an
invasion of privacy. Because she violated the rules, because people are
demanding the same access they would have had had she not violated the rules,
Halperin’s going to start screaming about invading her privacy?
And Fournier’s point is key: How easy would it be for Ms.
Clinton delete, as private, all emails to foreign governments seeking a
donation to the Clinton
Foundation. Don’t forget that the other half of this scandal is the
pay-for-play.
Halperin is a national political journalist throwing up
spurious arguments against the full transparency of a senior government
official who is about to run for president.
Whatever Halperin’s agenda is, it is obviously not the full
and complete vetting of a presidential candidate.
Mark Halperin
Mark
Halperin is a founding editor for Bloomberg
Politics, Morton H. Halperin’s
son, and a frequent guest on Morning Joe.
Note: Morton H. Halperin
is Mark Halperin’s father, a senior
adviser for the Open Society Foundations,
a director at the ONE Campaign, and
was a senior fellow at the Center for
American Progress.
Open
Society Foundations was a funder for the Center for American Progress, and the Bill, Hillary & Chelsea Clinton Foundation.
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Soros is the founder & chairman for the Open Society Foundations, a co-chair, national finance council at Ready for Hillary, a board member for
the International Crisis Group, was a
supporter for the Center for American
Progress, the chairman for the Foundation to Promote Open Society,
and a benefactor for the Harlem
Children's Zone.
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Thomas R.
Pickering is a co-chair for the International
Crisis Group, was the under secretary for the U.S. Department of State, and the chairman of review board that
investigated the 2012 attack on U.S.
consulate in Benghazi, Libya in 2013.
Zbigniew
Brzezinski was a board member for the International
Crisis Group, and is Mika Brzezinski’s
father.
Mika Brzezinski
is Zbigniew Brzezinski’s daughter,
and a co-host for Morning Joe.
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(think tank).
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Bloomberg is an advocate for the ONE
Campaign, the founder of Bloomberg
LP, and was a benefactor for the Harlem
Children's Zone.
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Politics, a co-author for the Game
Change, and a frequent guest on Morning
Joe.
Mark
Halperin is a founding editor for Bloomberg
Politics, a co-author for the Game
Change, a frequent guest on Morning
Joe, and Morton H. Halperin’s
son.
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