Video archive: http://giveusliberty1776.blogspot.com/2012/06/this-mornings-florida-ballot-challenge.html
Plaintiff attorney Larry E. Klayman said nomination has in fact occurred, states do have jurisdiction, Obama has shown no legal proof of U.S. birth, is also not natural born because his father was not American. Some discussion on both sides.
Judge Terry Lewis did not reveal his opinions on these issues, but asked multiple clarifying questions.
There was some tak about giving Klayman leave to file an amended petition. Couldn’t hear last portion because my video display stopped for a while. I’ll update this when I can watch the whole video. It appears that Judge asked for proposed orders by Monday.
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empty courtroom awaits FL ballot challenge hearing 0900 6-18-12
Underway!
0607
Debating motion to dismiss …
0610- Obama ‘s attorney tries to dismiss on technicalities
- candidate not actually nominated yet
- Not a direct election- Electoral College actually elects
- State courts can’t decide
0615
Primary not really a primary- just a “Presidential preference” primary”
No primary held this year
101.252 not apply
More technicalities
Larry Klayman on at 0623
“Last time I was here was in 2000″
Candidate HAS been nominated
Not just citizen needed to serve, but NATURAL born
No foreign influence wanted- allegiance to U.S. wanted
Law of Nations book was key reference in writing eligibility clause
Natural born Citizen is born within territories of U.S. and of 2 citizen parents
Judge seems a little skeptical
Venus case- Justice John Marshall cited Vattel
statute 101.252
When only one candidate of a party qualified… such candidate shall be declared nominated for office… so President Obama was nominated…
.. he was automatically nominated. Unopposed candidate is nominated. Cited more law to cement his point.
Applicable part of law deals with ALL candidates, including President. Must read statutes in a way that protects voters ‘ rights.
Judge Terry Lewis asked some clarifying questions.
Voter wants to vote for someone who will not later be nullified
Lewis: legislative role?
Klayman: Governor could call for special election under certain circumstances
Any decision will be appealed. Judge Lewis has reputation of making hard decisions, even if politically incorrect.
We have a right to nomination based on Constitution, not peoples’ notions. The fact that Obama now President, etc., is irrelevant. Not about race.
Won Kim Ark largely irrelevant. About citizenship, not natural born Citizenship
There are potential Republican VP candidates not qualified (ineligible)
Asked judge to allow discovery to get evidence on record.
Went until 650
Obama’s lawyer back at 6:50
Pointed out that there is no reference to declatory judgement in amended complaint
He said Klayman quoted 18th century actions (re: natural born Citizenship)
Conflict with later court decisions
Not valid legal conclusions
Cited technicalities to assert Obama hasn’t been nominated- per national Democrat rules?
Lewis argued with him about this
Lawyer continues that presidential preference primary doesn’t nominate
Lewis again arguing with Obama’s lawyer. Lewis seems to think Obama WAS nominated
Other lawyer (Secy of State or Democrats?)
Obama not nominated
Chapter 103 not say primary= nomination
National political party only has one presidentia lnomination. Process leading up to it can vary from state to state
Only nominating convention is a nomination.
Larry Klayman
Would want 2nd amended complaint to incorporate citation to protect voter interests
They (defendants) want to pull the rug out from under this court, saying no nomination occurred.
Eligibility must be determined now to make sure voters have eligible candidate. Must go with interpretation that favors the voter.
Discovery stayed- we do need to start.
Referenced affidavits needed to help show ineligibility
Lewis says no allegation of birth outside U.S. Klayman says yes there is.
Obama Attorney
Stick with election activity not eligibility trial
(video has stopped several times)
lost part of Lewis words. It appears that Judge asked for proposed orders by Monday. What about discovery?
Gary Wilmott explains that judges often do this to save work and time, then select desired wording and edit it.
Session will resume NEXT Monday.
Case is still alive
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